But can we work on the live forever thing, its a problem for me. I am 16 years of age and I am more adult than well over half the people leaving comments here. Look, Ive owned rescue dogs and purebreds. E-collar trained: sit, down, place, heel, leave it. I suppose you hold your beliefs deeply. It is very important to us that all our babies get a good start in life both nutritionally and $600.00 firm!!! What makes these supposed pure breds any better than the mutts? Potassium is the link between the brain and all the organs not just in dogs but in people as well. They are just as loving as any other color. My Grandparents brought me up and as a child we had a German Shepherds called Sally who was farm stock and lived to be 17 and my grandad said no matter how many dogs you have there will be one that stands out head and shoulders above all the others for me it was Cleo! I recommend both of them and if your are close to either I can give you a contact person. I would also like to add that the leading mfr of dog food is and has been a problem for us, having lost several dogs to cancer. Please contact me. My red Dober-boy, Steele, gets a sunburn on and just above his nostrils the fist day outside in the Spring. I would never say put the white dobermans down, they ARE dogs, but to purposely keep trying to breed white dobies and keep the color going is completely irresponsible. Humans as a species have not been around, in any influential way for very long. I have taken in many dogs that were not purebred and wonderful animals. It is a FACT they are prone to way more health problems than the other color variations. In the last year I registered him as ESA, that way I never had to deal with apartments telling me they wont renew my lease bc they believe my dog is a Doberman. To be a partial albino, the horse needs two copies of the partial albino gene. However, she is overly friendly with EVERYONE and very healthy. people are intitled to their own opinons though. Lovebirds Also, what about the numerous pedigrees out there that suffer from various ailments i.e. I think some people have developed an absurd bias. Im saying white dobes arent albinoid, but Im saying its not fact. You have two dog, who has one black allel and one white. Theres this awesome thing called Google, use it, and dont just click on the first thing you see and read it. just because your white dog is healthy now doesnt mean it wont run into issues later. My Granddaughter, bought a red, an American bred. And if you sincerely care about shelter dogs, I also recommend you stop whining on the internet and start pushing your congressman for tougher laws punishing animal abusers and tighter regulation of pet ownership and breeding. Whites live longer and have less health issues because breeders have to breed them for health and think about what they are doing. My lovely boxer/rottwreiler just passed away last week at the ripe old age of 16! Blue Dobermans and fawn Dobermans are both color dilutions. Not for sale. Bashing someones religion. Young female lutino budgies ready now please bring a carry cage for pickup, please TXT as this is best contact. are there any kinds of toys or things i can leave in that would give him the stimulation that i have heard they need while im at work? So there you have it! PS, I dont own a white Dobe but rather a Cockerpoo! I dont care what harsh bio-cultural forces shaped you, but I dont like you ya F_____g jerk. All domesticated animals including all dog breeds are a bit of an abomination or reconstruction of natural selection and I feel that we need to be wary of pontificating or judging the significant efforts of those who believe in breeding white Dobermans. She is my baby! I started with a potassium tab that you can get at almost any store. Currently have a red dobie who is the wildest, most hard to train girl ever! Price is not negotiable. Playful. You dont see white plants or trees that are not green becusse they need pigment (chlorophyll thier melanin) to convert sunlight and photosynthesize. The goal in breeding is to better each individual breed. I have had alot of dobermans over the years all colors the color does not make the dog what makes the dog is how you raise it train it love it and socialize them. We have high quality hand raised blue & gold macaws - super tame and friendly to suit adults and children - 3 males and 1 female available - Each macaw comes with DNA Certificate - currently 14 weeks old and on 2 feeds a day - Come over amd appreciate the quality of these beautiful babies - for only $3500.00 you need to be quick - Ph. You can use it externally on wounds or internally as well. Young finches We showed Dobermans and Afghans in the late 70s and in the last 15 years have had three Reds , one Black and Tan and one White. A little stubborn and head strong, but quick to pick up new things. As I told them you do not want an American Doberman. Hey I do not breed dobermans but my neighbor does I have researched the breed to the highest of levels cause I could not understand y she was hoping for a blue or white Well we both share 7 acers and have one fence around the entire property I breed wolf hybrids been doing so since I moved she breeds dobies and her brother breeds pitbulls. Both children learnt to walk by grabbing two fists full of Cleo and pulled themselves up? Three years ago I had the same concern. First, As I initially stated, it hasnt been that long ago that blue and fawn puppies were culled. So. Once from the killer STAPH I got in the hospital during an appendix event. Cockatiels Young Burke parrots All of which are not albinoid. I am looking at an Isabella (Fawn). Bless u for trying anyway. California is far away. Dreadlock stylist near me. But i would not recommand to buy a white. Most of all just LOVE your Doberman because they are very sensitive and require being close to their owners/families. Choose what works for YOU. We are to blame for not doing research prior to getting her. Breeding any dogs should be outlawed in my opinion the shelters are crowded with purebreds and mutts alike. Have been sex determined and micro-chipped. Hes the sweetest dog ever! ANOTHER THING! With an overhead track system to allow for easy cleaning on the floor with no trip hazards. . There is way to much overbreeding of ANY breed so dont single out the white Doberman and make shit up because you were either brain washed or breed and cant sell one of your perfect colored dobermans because someone may purchase a white over yours. He was afraid of her and almost pulled my shoulder out trying to get away from her. She sees the vet for her yearly stuff. Maybe you should think about that before commenting on another animal site. NO health issues or behavioral issues at all! We have a 5 month old white dob named Alfonso.. so funny Marie! Show this code at the store: Get offer. I have a 3 month old fawn named Duchess. DNA card leg ring, I have a six years old Blue and gold macaw up for adoption a nice big bird named Lucy, originally Handraised from an incubator four the first six months she was a indoor bird but now she is in in a large Aviery ,I have had her DNA and microchip Health check ,unfortunately I can't keep her ,what I would like to see for her is to have a mate .It's just not fair.She will come down for a scratch and eat out of your hand she says a few words and been brought up the best Quality food Please I Will, Download the Gumtree app for iOS or Android. could anyone tell me their experience if possible with Z factor of puppies? Any reputable Dobe breeder will react with horror at the idea of continued or purposed breeding of these poor dogs. This is proved by a book written back in 1929 and one in 1939 by two different authorities on the breed. Birth defects dont require you put the dog to sleep, but be responsible and educated. An owner of an Albino should realize that they need to spay or neuter the animal as soon as possible. I do agree, I actually own a beautiful WL black german shepherd from east Germany. Their healthy, extremely loved and they are both so attached to me. Harness trained They are HEALTHY, Happy, Loving, Stable friends. Met her yesterday. We rescued him when he was 2 years old and its a good thing we didnt take to heart all the negative comments people write about them. I dont understand why you people cant accept a color. And Marcela Rodriguez, you might want to try fish oil and get your blue in to see a vet and or a dermatologist quickly to try and help his coat. Amen to that. White tigers are very beautiful creatures as are white lions and both occur and survive naturalistically in nature. Either due to crafty paper work practices or AKC slip ups . He is a purebred Persian and the sweetest of cats. I have one too (rescue). You clearly mistook the information in the article that they are sick animals and shouldnt be bred. It saved my life TWICE! Let us help you select the best cage & accessories for your bird. He does have a barking problem and absolutely hates the squirrels that tease him. People adopt children from other countries and still love them the same. My friends are very happy with their new family member, shes beautiful. and vet bill are just that vet bill make a payment arrangment or start paying the vet before yu get the dobie and have a credit before the health issues arrise or pet health insurance. I have 4 adult budgies for sale. So beautifully rare. We just adopted a Red Doberman coming up on her 5th birthday. His appearance is that of a GS trapped in a Dobie body. November 2022 General Election. People who breed Albino dobermans only care about the money and not the breed, they sell them for more money saying they are rare. Up for sale with regret is our 4 month old male macaw he is dna tested with closed ring due to no fault of the bird we are having to rehome it as work comittments has left us with not much attention given to him where we feel very sorry for and would love him to go to a home with someone available for him as he is a big affectionate baby absolutely loves kisses and to be held also has started to say hello will come with bird stand in photos any further questions message me Thankyou. In my eyes, its a crime to nature to breed anything like that. Blue and white available. , I have grown to love the Dobmerman due to their intelligence, loyalty and gorgeous looks. Im in N. Calif. Near Sacramento. Isnt that enough ?. .. if there is something wrong with it, its not because of its color. I also agree with not getting dogs from shelters, I want to know where my dogs have come from and that they have had my influence and training from a young age. It is usual behaviour by breeders when a new mutations occurs. LIKE LITTLE TIGERS. So, Steele gets a bit of sun block on his nose. I love him so much. I have a white doberman that I adopted from a local, reputable, dobie rescue Second Chance Dobes. In the past I had 2 German Shepperd, but after my first blue doberman all my family totally fall in love in this breed and couldnt imagine our home without doberman. Purebred dogs aside from a few breeds like the Komondor (a very large mop dog) are not at all family friendly by nature and are originally bred for WORK, not to keep as a pet. Both love attention and getting outside with their harness on Anyway, if the kids were there Nobody was getting near them. Not everyone wants one, and people are impressionable. How common is it? She is a hand full and always wants too be by your side! Hello Sharon, we finally had our appointment with a cardiac veterinarian. If you have many products or ads, My mother and father had one, then my stepmother and father had two of them, then my grandparents had two. Professional breeders now refer to it as Line-Bred. you are forgetting one thing Your comment is awaiting moderation. in San Francisco whos up for adoption. Our Doberman was the Black/Tan type. If you are on Facebook I run a doberman re home and rescue group. Vanill gave birth to 5 kittens on October 13 2022. I remain devastated to this day. Do you live in America? Yes, he requires a lot of exercise but the entire family is spoiled by his great temperament. i will also say that certain people shouldnt be allowed to breed either (like know it alls that are never happy with their own lives) but they do. Budgies for sale All colours available heaps of lutino Babies, breeding pairs and ready to breed birds Also have bird aviary for sale Aviary $400 Aviary with 30 budgies $550 Budgies $20-$30each. All This Years Baby's, Each.Also For Sale Baby Pied/ Pearl Cockatiels 55 Each,3 To 6 Mths Old. That will cause many health issues. The environment is everything. Exposure to children is essential to even an adult dog. Bluey is a baby violet clear tail Hand raised from the EGG It means they are subject to more possible health problems and should not be used for breeding. Easily trained at this age. Blue eyes is actually a lack of pigment in the iris. She even feeds her dogs food she makes herself, it looks yummy! If inbreeding or line breeding is used in any breed of animal to create an albino animal, there is a good chance that the animal will have health problems because of harmful recessive traits that crop up with the subsequent lack of genetic diversity. She lay in the floor next to him and I would catch her cleaning his face. Seriously: Seek help. I have been a little crazy since as he is like yours, just as friendly and loving as can be and a little velcro. He does things that make me laugh all of the time. I have raised Black and Tan, Red and Tan, Blue and Cream and Tan. Not all white dobermans will have skin issues, and other health issues. Its like saying youre partially pregnant. Monitor these things, supervise and dedicate time to them as a member of your home. All our birds are experienced in going outside on a harness and have been raised in a loving household full of different noises and experiences ensuring they adapt quickly to their new life outside our home. It almost kllled my dog and I was not told what to watch out for..Needless to say she and my Mom take the same pill, lucky for me. He was only 4 and a half years when cancer disabled him. Our red dobie that is 8 months nowheeats 3 meals a day. do NOT contact me with unsolicited services or offersfavorite this post Sep 4 Wanted Old Motorcycles 1(800) 220-9683 www.wantedoldmotorcycles.com $9,999 (CALL(800)220-9683 Website: wantedoldmotorcycles.com) pic hide this posting restore restore Wolverhampton, West Midlands . Dont worry, there isnt any problem with this. Probably not the answer you wanted, but I know DVMs who will not breed once a year if they cannot come as close as possible to not reproducing these health issues to further weaken the breed. My question is how long ago did you have your dobes skin cancer removed, Im just looking for some possitive info as I cant afford the suggested treatment and we are just going to ride it out as long as we can and hoping for the best. Even if he is expensive to keep healthy. I will say the bad press about white/cream does not help. Christine your unhinged rabid defensive response suggests you likely own a white dobie and feel hurt by those facts presented. She has NO health or behavior problems what so ever. Its done wonders for our storerooms., The sales staff were excellent and the delivery prompt- It was a pleasure doing business with KrossTech., Thank-you for your prompt and efficient service, it was greatly appreciated and will give me confidence in purchasing a product from your company again., TO RECEIVE EXCLUSIVE DEALS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS, Inline SURGISPAN chrome wire shelving units. The white Doberman is not an inbred retard but a beautiful color variation of the Doberman breed. An animal can have albino skin & hair, but still have normal eye color; this is called partial albinism. People that badmouth them most have never seen one, and know nothing about them. good people raise good dogs. He got all the best traits of each breed but especially the goofy tendencies Dobies can have. Dobermans Den is reader-supported. If there are genetic problems in a particular line say, deafness or blindness then that could easily be mitigated by careful selective breeding. advertising for a friend these are not my birds, I consent to receive marketing and third party offers from Gumtree, Commercial Sales, Leasing & Property Mgmt, Residential Leasing & Property Management. My second oldest Cream/white is going on 11. Male is very mischievous. It seems the Doberman breed has a very strong heart. Does anyone know of a reputable blue and tan breeder in the UK as I dont believe shipping a puppy from the states is good. Whatever color your Doberman is, remember they have short hair and are sensitive to cold temperatures. 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I love the comments about the White Dobe and that they have great personalities and temperament and frankly believe that you could have a little different personality from a White Dobe just because of the color (I have my flame suit on so let the comments rip). Oh dear, Hes taking Duke to the local animal shelter tomorrow and Im super sad to see that happen So Ill be going down to meet him (Duke) on Thursday Poor Duke has always been an outside dog, no training, not housebroken and the list goes on And intact on top of all that! thanks. I have a mix of Minature Pincher and a West Highland Terrier as well as the German Shepherd. Chantelle would push her nose under her hand and flip it to land on her head. Cleo went eeverywhere with me ? Saint is very intelligent, has a great thick coat, and has absolutely no hearing problems. She was urinating a lot more than the Golden Doodle we purchased at the same time. I have seen heathly specimens of ALL of the colors and Ive seen all of the colors have health or temperament issues. The AKC does register white(albino) dobermans. The population of white tigers is also too small and probably somewhat inbred to realistically test this theory. I have a white female Doberman and she is the best dog in the world she is good with my kids and has no health problems at all shes fun and loving and gets along with any dog she even loves the cat next door and her best friend is a one year old pit named Chico I love all Dobermans they are the best dogs and loyal to there most inner core. I wish people would stop talking trash about them when they have never experienced having one. She said it worked well. During spaying the vet discovered a heart murmur in Porsche. She bathed the dog in it and used in spray bottle as insect deterrent. Cock or hen now available. Just curious, I have a 1 year old purebred blue Doberman and he has blue eyes. It should help you out. This is our background. A beautiful White female Doberman placed in the last DPCA Nationals. I would break in half and give him twice a week in a cracker with peanut butter. All white dobes are tracked as z by the AKC. Second major problem and most expensive: woke up one morning and found MoZart wimpering and saw his eyes had changed colors: one was blue, the other a strange greenish color took him to the emergency vet hospital and found he was suffering from a corneal ulceration :-(. The population of white tigers is also too small and probably somewhat inbred to realistically test this theory. Beautiful Budgies. Rainbow Haus Dobermans in Eland, WI was owned by Brigette Block, until, God Rest Her Soul, she passed away. Red rumps Huge variety of colours. let me no what you do for your dobes while your away. Posted Prices start from Finches from 20 each upwards Diamond doves 25 each Canaries from 45 each upwards Budgies. Yes i agree dont breed for a color (but i do want a white) but for temperment and health i have seen dobies that are just ill tempered in any color. Lastly, we have the rare Doberman with white or light-colored cream fur. their temperament/health/intelligence is a little more than average of all the dobes i have owned. I have seen black people and babies with rickets (legs bend). To do otherwise is just plain selfish. Think I will be posting for advice as soon as we know more. 14,568 votes were collected over five years. Great Family Dogs, Very Protective and Fendi is a beautiful 35lbs boy! My heart goes out to you and all who have had to deal with the lost of a good dog. To the person who spreads semi thought out racist comments you are comparing white Dobermans to insecure white people concluding with white people are unhealthy because of their skin being pale.Specifically that white people suffer from osteoporosis because they cannot go in the sun. It was the antibiotic of choice in a few countries for 2000 years b4 penicillin and then it was all but forgotten about. What are the health risks for a red pup from a red dad and albino mother? I grew up with black and reds, and I would like to get another Black and a white. I was hoping someone knows or can open their heart to this girl.. He is a wonderful family dog.. His only health issue is that hes had runny eyes (nothing major) since he was a pup. bondcort. We have no issues with UTIs, no ear infections, no worms nothing! They are known as melanistic Dobermans. Young female 4x lutino budgies red eyes,$50 each also one female black eye,$35 and one mixed colour $35, Indian Ringneck Parrots 11 weeks old , aviary bred .female parent pure yellow, Any items you have viewed recently will be displayed here, Download the Gumtree app for iOS or Android. NEW ~ Carry the essentials: Our weight-forward saddlebags create passive compression designed to stabilize the pack and its contents; Internal stretch mesh pockets organize their adventure gear ~ Red Bubble Tip Anemone Hardy and healthy Host clownfish ~ 2" x 2" - $40. Because Whites are so rare, that makes for a very tiny gene pool. So quality educated Doberman breeders avoid propagating them. Designed to be the training resource of choice for. Adding to the confusion, the color names also vary around the world, some Europeans call red Dobermans, brown. (Think back on your Punit Square from Biology class) HOWEVER I have also read a vast number of reports from people who claim to have skin, eye, stomach, and bone issues with their whites. He couldnt handle the loss of his pack. The next most widely seen color is the red Doberman, which is a light brownish-red hair coloring. As I type this, we are in a Olcaa FL hotel waiting for the arrival of our dobie #4. Thats you. But if you breed them, you can get 3 sorts of puppy because the puppy get one allel from each parents: 1.) The majority of the American GSDs are bred with such a slope on their hindquarters they literally run on their hocks. or a sheppherd dog or a wiener? my first dobe was white, I rescued him, he was def, and blind in one eye, as well he was a fear biter, he passed at only 3 years of age due to cancer some people get lucky with health issues I was informed of problems and gave home the best home I could. So I was thinking of her as well. This gos for cats, dogs, horses, pigs and any thing else. People expressed their hateful opinions here and actual owners mostly said that they have healthy white Dobermans. I am not intowhite vs. albino thing but i had a blue with skinproblems bt he was my dog. When you buy through links on the site, we may earn an affiliate commission. Every time she and I go walking, I get compliments about her colour and how beautiful she is! Will make great pets or breeders. Amen, Michelle. if they POP up, thats one thing but dont be an irresponsible breeder and try for a dog that will diminish the breed standard. We are also in Alabama near Bham. I bet half of you owners with healthy white Dobies havent seen been to a vet more than three times with that dog. Sorry Evilboo all of that was intended for TexasJul. Maybe you shudnt even own a dog if you feel theyre , how do I put this, um.. stuoid. I also became very bored reading your snarky reply. I had a white male dobermen pinscher. We have done all the testing that any breeder should do. Both of the latter are in Floridalots of luck in your search. Polyoma More often than not, this is usually because circumstances the owner thinks may have caused such reaction. Stop. Albinos do NOT have a color gene. Now some breeders have been trying to fix the problem by crossing the white with fawn to keep the light color but extend the gen pool, this is helping the problem a lot. Neutered and spayed dogs had five times higher incidence of other types of cancer, regardless of age of neutering. Which means they are not within the AKC breed standard. We are experienced owners have had two, and both our sons have dobermans in their households. For example, if the white gene in a tiger provided resistance to any given cat disease, then breeding white tigers could potentially endow the species with a get-out-of-jail-free card in the future. Maybe one of you will actually finish reading this and do some of youre own research. was a shock and has been a difficult loss. The other from Lyme Disease. Youre a puppy mill just like breeders that breed for merle in Chihuahuas. Ya white blue and fawn should never be purposly bred Every since american breeders got there hands on a dobermann they have ruined the breed.. Now we have dilluted colors, whites, everyone of these types are prine to skin issues at the very least. Various western saddle pads in good condition $20 each. His left front leg had all the parts it was supposed to but in a mixed up order! But not being willing to see there is a problem will not help at all. I know of someone that has a 2 year old neutered male that they are trying to find a home for? Just sayin. Need more information or a custom solution? Thank you for reading our story. Exactly!! Truly man & women best friend. A well bred doberman (which clearly 99% of you have no clue what that is) will be way healthier than an albino. Dogs should look something like a wolf, a dingo, or a fox if they had not been reconfigured by humans. Shes a happy girl, and makes us happy too. VMD and AKC registered Doberman breeder here. Ive done my best to help but havent had much luck. Also, a neighbor had a visitor with a beautiful blue dobie girl. I dont think so. Grand Eclectus They just happen to, every now and then, come in White or Cream. Personally I think the standard colors are quite beautiful but then Im a bit biased as my Princess is a red. Also though they do not use Wiemaraners for PPD dogs typically. anyone with as much as a passing knowledge of animal genetics knows albinism (yes, that IS what gives it the white coat) renders ANY breed susceptible to genetic issues. Aug 17. That is most definitely venom and passion. Does that NOT send a red flag right there? All my dogs have been indoor dogs so by dark mom was holding the door open for her to go in. I agree with you and on a recent visit to the vet with our new rescue he was pleased to see that he was 2 yrs old before neutering (we have no choice when getting a rescue) because he said recent studies showed a 15% reduction in cancers if neutered at 2 years AS COMPARED TO NEUTERING AS A PUPPY). Although I have never personally owned a White Dobie, I have had the distinct honor of knowing four of them, very, very well. And I feel this a lot less an acceptable reason than the white ones health issues. That in no way is improving the breed. Recently lost our beloved 12 year old stroke and cardiac arrest and we have been so very devastated. We are not trying to replace Katie, that would not be possible. Budgies . @DJ Yes. I totally agree with u on the ears being left like they were when the pup was whelped. I think many people dont want to admit the truth about albino dogs because it resonates with whites people having white skin which is also albinism. Many years ago I fell in love with the Doberman breed. Black and rust . They love you! I would never dream of having any other breed they are fantastic. I am living with a little companion that is pure bred, that should be POOR BREAD! I believe those batteries that have been discovered from days of old, using vinegar, were possibly used for making colloidal silver! Theres a very sweet 2 y.o. All 8-12 months old. I am not a dog breeder or trainer, nor have I too much experience raising dogs. Theyre the ones who cause animals to suffer and waste billions of dollars in resources that could be used elsewhere. Black people have higher rates of high blood pressure and are more likely than whites to have vitamin D shortages in northern hemispheres because their skin is so dark that they dont manufacture enough of it in northern countries. When we took the bandage off to dress the wound again, it was gone! to clear up the debate on albino dobermans. Weaned an ready to go He explained coherently, the albino thing.might you should reread the article with peace in your heart for claritys sake. Lets use our brains to think about original, non-judgemental thoughts! Have another pair that are 8 years old. I didnt buy a white Dobe but I did just adopt one when our local shelter had to be evacuated and she needed somewhere to go for a few days and I just couldnt bring her back. 2 male goats for sale 1 red entire medium 1 white wether large Selling as the buck's little babies are growing up and we need to move him on with his friend by his side. The answer, Anything and everything! From cleaning solvents to toxins such as rat poison. But he adapted just fine and even learned to lift his leg to pee(with our entire family cheering for him, LOL!) Do you happen to know more than they do? Youre a puppy mill just like breeders that breed for merle in Chihuahuas. Children can be unknowingly mean to a dog and a dog does have a right to leave the area or protect itself it it is being abused. One of my customers told me about a documentary on Netflix called Petfooled. When my last child was born you would have thought he was her puppy. And ever since Ive been sharing what Ive learned with other Dobie fans. Stop preaching your personal opinions, it isnt a crime to buy a purebred dog. To say all albinos today come from her blood line is false. I am looking for a blue and tan puppy to join her but the only litter I have found seems to be for a lady that has v negative feedback from. Your pet in the morning will be having sunbath "Vitamins D", and evening will sleep indoors to enjoy the benefits of a warm and cosy environment. Every where I go with Merlin , I am complimented on his manners, temperament, and coat. Rainbow lorikeets Thanks for sharing your story about your sweet girl. Its obviously you dont know a damn thing about the breed do your research get a DNA test stop believing all the crap you see on the internet about white Dobermans none of it is true. Chlamydia This is the most popular and most often seen hair color. Commentdocument.getElementById("comment").setAttribute( "id", "a9d1115b6a79a70c5dd5cc872109bd89" );document.getElementById("c0a37e25a6").setAttribute( "id", "comment" ); Hi, Im Jaki the creator of Dobermans Den. I resently found a Doberman pup for a friend a little red bitch. Full of love and pep. They have so many health issues. Blue and Gold Macaws We post dogs in the usa and canada. I dont agree with breeding whites at all. Located south of London, but willing to meet up with Southwestern Ontario. 4) Pay better attention to grammar, spelling and typing skills. BTW, two large studies on cardio (one in the US and one in Europe) have shown that 60 per cent of dobes suffer from the disorder. It is born out of inbreeding. If you have ever seen a picture of Shebah you will see she was not totally white. Anyway they tried so hard to keep them apart until they were ready to breed them later on. So, speak up when you know what you are talking about. No anonymous text messages or emails thanks, - your call is welcome. Okay , all of a sudden white/partial albino have popped up and Oh My God it must be a new line of dobs? So I was thinking of her as well. Beautifully said. My Westie wanted to be second in command and over stepped her place so now I cant let the Shepherd and Westie together. I must say I came to this site for help and I feel as though I have found out inevitably that my pup will have issues her whole life. Ive had them live to be 15 and some only make it to 4 or 5. And all anyone can do is take the best care of their animal as possible. Hey, I was wondering if they had insurance for pets, where could I purchase the insurance? yes the whites are known to have health issues, the blacks seem ok and are rarely found anyway. Hello Im getting an all black Doberman in about a week and I keep reading all these negative things about them. My daughter breeds dobermans for the better of the breed, she can tell you all you need to know and more of what you want to know. However, there are cases in which the eyes of an albinistic animal appear red or purple, depending on the amount of pigment present. Nine week old male puppy. Fact is that there are still breeders that destroy blues and Isabellas and reds, because they are from mutated genes. She has not health or behavior issues. Cocks and Hens. These dogs were never tracked nor were their litters. Is the concept of good breeding practices really so difficult to comprehend? Check out Beautiful birds galore Facebook page and check the customer reviews . It is a fault, there are only four allowed colors. Whites have been around for a very long time! Hes my 90lb lap dog. AKC registered the first oneit is a purebredbut it is not allowed to showjust because it says AKC doesnt make it right. I also belive that dobermans that carry the albino trait should not be bred even if they are a champion. The population of white tigers is also too small and probably somewhat inbred to realistically test this theory. There has been NO testing done that would prove or disprove the albino theory. He loves everyone, and everyone who meets him falls in love. Im not certain where you are located. her eyes are sensitive to the sun and she does seem to have a somewhat sensitive stomach. I had never seen a white Doberman before, so I wanted to look them up. both allels are black you get a normal, usual dog (25% chance), 2.) Being out on the street to cause a problem or die a painful death. This is usually first seen in baby budgies. And the oil is only one of the horrible things in their food. Fish Tank for sale. Dr. S. At the University of Saskatchewan says that color has no bearing on the health and temperament of a dog. Thanks for yr post. please dont make more problems than the breed already has ! WHY are people so concerned with LOOKS and COLOR, there are already many different colors of dobies and if you breed white ones or want white ones YOU ARE A DISGRACE. You didnt read the authors information well. i have a question i have a blue dover and i want to know whats good to giveum so they can be strong,im giving him yukanuba what do u request for him thanks, get rid of the whites no time for bad dogs. None of these 4 dogs, nor the other dozen or so that I briefly met, suffered from Von Willebrands, Wobbles or any other disease, for that matter. We are searching the rescues, not an easy task they all have their own qualifications to adopt. I knew he would be good when he was tussling with his brother and my Buddys 18 month old nephew walked right up to them and biffed them both on the nose and backed them into a corner!! Great skin and coat, awesome temperment, etc As with any dog, problems are caused by poor breeding. Due to this, white Dobermans experience many issues that their normal colored siblings wouldnt, including extremely UV sensitive skin, early on set glaucoma, lapsed patellas, aggression, and more. These puppies will grow between 9-14 lbs full grown. Think I can pass him off as a And while I have owned only one purebred dog out of a total of eight dogs total (only one of my mutts came from the pound. Will need secure high fencing as the white wether can jump. Cleo spoilt me because of her oober intelligence so went for a Weimaraner next Emma was bright but no Cleo! My .25 horse had an infection on the bottom of his hoof from having stepped on something. He is a purebred Persian and the sweetest of cats. My son has no time to hunt him. Find cats & kittens for sale, for rehoming and for adoption from reputable breeders or connect for free with eager buyers UK at Freeads.co.uk, the cat & kitten classifieds. Do you history and know why a doberman was ever created then ask urself will my dog do this.. And even if you think your dog will it probaly wont and if it did dit would probably get harmfully injured.. Its just a fact AKC doesnt want them in the gene pool. I have previously had 4dobies and one of them was born deformed. Thank you for your support I hope you can answer. Gloster's Last Few For This Season .. 4 Corona 2 Consorts. We mainly have had Black, Red and Isabella colored Dobermans, although we have a 3 year old White bitch named Saint. And the blue Doberman is sometimes called a gray Doberman or silver Doberman. Quail Calling them stupid. 7 yrs later, my baby girl is still a goofball! craigslist provides local classifieds and forums for jobs, housing, for sale, services, local community, and events, led headlights flicker when car is running, virtualbox gpu passthrough windows 11 host. Doberman is a brilliant dog with any color and ears and if you want to have companion for you and guard for your children take doberman. Sweet natured and inquisitive, that have a confiding nature. Its just the colour of the dogHEllo its still a DOBERMAN! Thanks! Unfortunately I am from Romania and I think it would cost me a lot more as it is also a great distance. We are in Huntsville, AL. i think that we should do what is best for the breed . Yg handraised B&Gold hen - has been surgically sexed and microchipped by leading Avian Vet - just weaning now. Thanks for any info. Ill buy your dog. His name was Logan. We are in our 60s. Best dog I ever had. She was rehomed due to biting a child in the family. But it will be years down the road. Never hurts to have all the facts. My white doberman is perfectly healthy, with show quality disposition and features. Responsible is the key word here. . HARLEQUIN MACAWS Greeneing Hen x Blue and Gold Cock Incubated and hand raised from the egg our babies come vet checked by an Avian vet, DNA (blood) Sexed and Microchipped. $3,800 - price negotiable as I am looking for the best family for my bird & not the best price to sell at. I am familiar with the Triad rescue and i am approved by them. Take it from someone who found out the hard way. They do have blue eyes and excellent eye sight. When he started to try to walk she was right there to make sure he didnt fall wrong or to hard. For example, when my dobby at the his last year got arthrit, my bill was some more $500, but I received back from insurance $430 in couple weeks. One pair are 10 years old each and the other pair are around 8 years old each. A friggin moron would say their eyes are just like ours with normal sun sensitivity, she squints so bad in the sunlight, it looks painful. VERY INTELLIGENT AND ADORABLE. Purchase from one of Australias most experienced Macaw breeders. http://dpca.org/albino/albino_about.htm The website also has a lot of information for anyone wanting information about the Dobermans. Nesting box 150 x 210 x 300 (attaches to side of cage). It's easy to use, no lengthy sign-ups, and 100% free! You are the product of mating genetics just as much as a white or silver Doberman or two humans of any color (some better adapted than others awhile, but then things change) because a male had an erection and a female accommodated it by choice or force. Im hopeful this discovery leads to many more years for our beloved Dobermans! My grandmother had white and cream dobermans and she bread them. All love on four paws. Variety of colours mainly blues $15 each. If they are healthy, they are an attractive byproducts of the current standard. Whe I read your post I thought it was a match made in heaven then I read on DE-WORMED.WITH UNIQUE RINGED TAILS. https://www.sfspca.org/adoptions/pet-details/41201970. do you think white tigers should continue to be bred, as well? The feeding dishes as well. ANYONE WHO BREEDS OR SHOWS ANY ANIMALS OR MAKES AN ATTEMPT AT BREED STANDARDS OR WHO ONLY OWNS PUREBREDS, has no right to blast anyone else for wanting their dog to look a certain way. I am fair skin and burn easy. Beautiful birds with awesome temperment. I recently purchased a melanistic all black doberman from a reputable breeder and in conversation with her about the different colors of dobermans, she said that the cream ones are not albino at all. 20% off Aug 13, 2022 - Aug 20, 2022. I am a dark skinned person i hve stomach problems, light sensitivity, and sometimes i dont behave like i should.should i be assisted with death because of it? It is not accepted by AKC for show (though the dog can still be registered and bred- although this practice is frowned upon) Although labeling the dogs albino or even partial is a common misunderstanding. Only try something new on small part of animal at first as sensitivity issues are indivual to dog. I am concerned that our rather flawed, poorly evidence-based opinions may rob us of the pleasure of some lovely animals. We already have hundreds of homeless dogs we do not need more so I feel to not spay/neuter them that would be harming them more than helping them. The breeding is the culprit of the problems a white may have. I cannot believe what you just said, NO ONE should EVER breed.. hahahahahahaha.. oh yes and while we are on it , lets make our faithful dogs become extinct .. you foolish person yours has to be the most nonsensical comment I have ever read on a doggie site lolol tut tut tut. These are all actual facts BTW We visit our vet often. ONLY 2 LEFT. He is a great dog and slowly filling DINOs paw prints. Im sorry your new puppy has a heart murmur!! I got him from a champion breeder and was hoping for a lot longer life with him. Responsible pet owners do what is best for loved pet. So smart and loves attention. Thats why good little republicans want to outlaw abortion because who wants an unwanted brat around. Pbfd She has never had an issue in health her whole life. Also, the skin/eye color isnt a qualifying factor for albinism just a sign of the trait. onsumers and dog lovers need to be educated about the health concerns of these dogs. I feel he needs a chance at a much better life!!! I have a beautiful loving white dobe, he is very healthy and weights in at a nice 92 his skin is good, i hav a red doberman right now and i luv her to death and once one of my dogs die we might get a blue doberman do u hav any suggestions otherwise, People RE: SARAH- please you are uninformed. Ive had dobies of every color except fawn. Killarney Vale, NSW 2w. What is so different with these? In most mammals (including humans) true albinos have pink eyes because they have no pigment at all. Im very lucky as many are not. Big birds, quality assured. Humans as a species have not been around, in any influential way for very long. Haha, just like its wrong to have RRB without the ridge, even though those ones tend to be healthier, so pure whites or blacks shouldnt be bred, but either just sold off or put down like the do with the RRBs without the ridge? CASH!! For those who say albinos have red eyes, are very misinformed. Why us americans have single handedly ruined or waterd down any good dogs they ever touched, do some reading and you will have to agree.. We bring dogs in this country and brred them until they cannot do what it was intended to do we make them all couch potatoes show dogs and change the way they are suposed to look so much they just couldnt to a job even if they wanted to. BEAUTIFUL & DURABLE WOODEN DESIGN: Unipaws pet ramp is sturdy, visually appealing and the perfect solution to allow dogs and cats easily hop up and down from the couch or bed. Sun conure Sunday conure Jenday conure Nanday conure Brown throat conure Violet conure Lorikeet Galah Corrella Breeding pair Quaker Lutino Albino Fallow Parrotlet Alexandrine Indian ringneck Caique Senegal Amazon Eclectus Hahns macaw Red front macaws Amazon Eclectus Cockatiel Cockatoo Corrella Love bird Finch Cockatiel, We take care all types of Birds; small to big, tame or untame, while you are away on holidays or away from home. $20 each She was a faded Isabella, very pale tan. And if they actually do their research the White Doberman has been around from the beginning. I think the main point about white Dobermans is that they should rarely be bred from both white parents. I think it needs to be said that while whites are beautiful, intelligent, loving and just as wonderful as any other color of dobe, the akc doesnt accept them. Do you know which Doberman colors are recognized or restricted by kennel clubs? But I surmised that a low dosage daily would be better. You have no idea what your talking about regarding White Dobermans. U sound like an idiot! Steve, lol. I have a fawn and hes the best thing in my life. Its been recorded that one champion white even bit his judge prior to winning. Over the years we have had three Doberman girls. Though I imagine Albino and partial albino dobermans popped up all throughout its history. However, when we look at the longevity of, say, albino rabbits, guinea pigs, pigeons and budgies, we can realistically say that being white in itself is not fatal to a species. If someone has a Doberman with a confirmation championship in the US and wants to show in Great Britain it wont be allowed to if the ears r cut. I happened to find her on Craigslist and have been in contact with the owner who is going thru some hard time divorce etc and is moving and not able to take Trinity with her.. is the unfounded accusations that the Recessive gene that Expresses as a White Doberman, also carries a trait that make them inferior to their colored cousins. Lots of baby budgies. He doesnt have an aggressive bone in his body. Heaps more in the nests Thanks. Too much sun, loud noises, rambunctious children at play, (not just bikes, skateboards, etc) even older kids can get on a dogs nerves. if you get one and have it dna tested it may or may not be from Shebahs bloodline. So whats the right dog food or treats to feed them. Google, Google Play, YouTube and other marks are trademarks of Google Inc. 6 beautiful border collie pups 2 red and white 2 red tri 1 black and white tri 1 black tri These were the best pups we have raised yet. Only 1 Handsome Male left! However, when we look at the longevity of, say, albino rabbits, guinea pigs, pigeons and budgies, we can realistically say that being white in itself is not fatal to a species. They need adult fosters/adopters. Well bonded always staying in the nest box Today, they are sought after, registered and shown (successfully). $30. Barber Shop That Does Dreadlocks Near Me Maudie Brown from. He will be 4 in September. Ive grown up with Dobermans all my life and I knew Sebastian would die of a broken heart if we didnt get a companion. But to everyone that has question about wanting to buy one i just like to say the are special its like having a special child they cant see good in sun light late afternoon best for himand to those that say put them down do you put special children down! THEY WERE GORGEOUS DOGS WITH A UNIQUE COLOR FOUND IN A RECESSIVE GENE! White skin cant go into the sun and therefore cant create vitamin D which leaves their bodies to pull it from their bones making them weak and open to osteoporosis and every other diseases and sickness some which albino dogs have in common. Please learn proper grammar. My opinion is that all Dobermans are smart gentle protectors. Please, its been said before in this thread you are online use google, educate yourself about this subject!!! All of our dogs are socialized and do not have temperment problems. From one week out of the nest. The problem happens when inexperienced people dont invest in the tests that are necessary to find out which individuals gene pool, either should or should not be crossed, with another. I know that means he will have some of the albino gene in him but is this going to cause any health issues? I never had a Doberman before but I love ours even if my wallet has palpitations when going to the vet for dog related issues! Most of the year the environment is white white white LOL! Killing white pups at birth doesnt remove the z factor from the line, which is clearly evident. Had them for about 4-6 months and increased work requirements make it hard for me to commit to their growing needs (particularly when they lay and hatch). Gouldian Finches babies only. I didnt pay them any heed however I was in for a painful surprise. The albinos are very hard to take care of i wish people would quit breeding them. Educate yourself, you freaking twelve-year-olds. You have the attitude of a twelve year old girl, though I would like to think you are older. No one has less affection for a white doberman, theyre just pointing out serious genetic and personality issues that are likely when they are white. She would come and take my hand gently and lead me to him if he was wet or had soiled his diaper. Male.. plus i want to keep him as happy as i can once i get one. The female is, and I love this dog so do not think I am biased, very stupid. Before I bought our current Red Male, the breeder asked what I was looking for, I said I was a little partial to a Red Male never having owned a Red before. the color is just one, if very obvious, sign that there is something wrong. Find Finches for sale, for rehoming and for adoption from reputable breeders or connect for free with eager buyers UK at Freeads.co.uk, the bird classifieds. I was always afraid of dobies when I was younger, but they truly are a loving and magnificent breed. Still, breeding is needed for that so the idiot you replied to is, in fact, an idiot. No one has had all the albinos dna tracked to see. I am a breeder and my female come from a line of whites. He has all the red & tan Dobie markings and body style but the hair texture, ears and tail of a GS. I would say its do-able with certain preparation. Hope you will sell me your dog. I just lost my best friend to pheochromocytom had him for almost 9 years. albino from parents with no albinistic mutations), but they are very, VERY rare. Anyone who truly cares about the breed should not want to shut down discussions of genetic facts as proven by science not emotion. What a bunch of self- flattering snobbery, 1). He distinctly said Sheba was an albino, the original one. Its just cruel in my opinion to maintain purebred dogs when the mutts are so much healthier! I rescued a Fawn from a humane society in Washington State in 2011. He is 4 months old and dewormed. Not one pup out of all of their litters had one issue. Smh . They have KNOWN health issues far beyond the regular dobe. How is the red and black dobermans with children, especially small children? We are experienced Doberman owners. This socialization needs to continue even after puppy-hood on a consistent basis. Selling due to new work commitments and lack of time available. Dobies do demand your attention and companionship, but you cant find a more loyal dog anywhere. My bill at the ER hospital for meds alone was: $1400! The evolution of dogs is extremely rapid and at the descretion of their human counterparts. most shelter animals make wonderful pets. My husband and I are both retired. The vet told me the breeders usually put the white puppies to sleep and any animal lover would not do such a thing. Well, except for those pesky squirrels. Thank u so much for your response. My interest is in the fawn doberman the blue and silver fawn seem to have caught my attention for this type of dog. This lasted all day as we sit outside. I wonder if this is what happens with dobermanns. I am getting ready to buy the only black and rust puppy from an all white litter. He has had no health problems very easy trained. Beautiful birds with awesome temperment. I am honored to read your story. I need help my family and I just purchased a black and rust Doberman from pure breeders.com (I know everyone will have their opinions on the site) and it was just brought to my attention through my asking that the Doberman we are getting z factored. I pray the universe keeps you from committing such a selfish act. Great looking dog, although someone did a hack job on his ears. Call . They are beautiful dogs and behave just as well as any other dobe. You just have to compare the two. Before you judge white dobermans I would recommend talking to people that have them. Though this post will probably be burrows by more uneducated comments of nu-uhs and uh-huhs that one could read until they were blue in the face. 3) If you have extra money enough, do NOT get the DNA tested, but rather give it to a homeless person on the street with a dog. We figured out how to get him to do what I wanted but it took some work. I have had Doberman my entire life black reds blues and fawns and currently have 2 whites and they are AMAZING!! He adores people and does amazing with other cats and dogs He is fully litter trained and eats his hard premium food but loves a snack of 2 wool horse blankets size 78 each Very good condition $50 each. The word Inbreeding is thrown around as if it was a curse word. Thank you for your post. The two girls together are amazing. Bringing the top end of our breeding dogs in their pedigree. Weaned an ready for his forever home Indian ringneck Caique Senegal Amazon Eclectus Hahns macaw Lorikeet Quaker Cockatiel Cockatoo Corrella sun conure nanday conure Green cheek conure Pineapple conure Turquoise conure Violet conure Lorikeet Galah Corrella Breeding pair Quaker Lutino Albino Fallow Parrotlet Alexandrine, Gorgeous violet clear tail hand raised baby indian ringneck, Hand raised baby Thank You!! They were gorgeous animals will massive abilities and they have been evolved into the short, squat English bulldogs we know today only because of the breeding. From one week out of the nest. A red female puppy this time. i have an albino dob and a black on they both get the same food and go to the dog park 4 times a week and my white one is more helthy then my black and tan, Hi, again does anyone know of a breeder with blue and tan pups in the UK? Currently I have two of my own Dobermans and one foster I am taking care of until she is healthy enough to be placed in a forever home. 2023 bmw convertible for sale. Anyone who wants to be a breeder should want to breed for the betterment, not to make money or get a color thats proven to not be good for the breed! shame on you who would cull a white pup, just because it is white. We also have Rabbit dog: 5 year old purebred intact male Beagle. The most common Doberman hair color is obviously the black and tan, sometimes called black and rust, or black and brown. That is why most Police departments buy European GSD. with that. Additional advice to the owners. In Sep 2018 we adopted Katie. meaning dont split hairs over whether or not its albino , or white when making a decision of to breed or not to breed . My mother is disabled as well with mobility issues which I feel the dog is good for as well for her. Helene VanHining Rockford IL am listed on AKC web site. Did you just comment please dont neuter your dog? Last photo of one of the most recent kids. Its a fact that #45 is a crook. No comparison to white Dobermans, which are albinos. They are loving all fruit, vegetable, nuts and seeds! I am certainly responsible with dogs and have a lot of experience around them, I was raised with them. Back to the people want the unusual, but dont realize how much work comes with it. i have a white doverman and he is very loving hes six years old no health problem until last week he started falling like his front claws wants to turn in while he walks has anyone every had this proble please let meknow? i will admit he does squent in direct sunlight but so does every human being. I am trying my childhood breed of German Shepards now and find myself comparing them. Even so, its felt that these dogs are not inferior to the reds or blacks if good breeding is present. Comes complete with cage and pellets for his food. All domesticated animals including all dog breeds are a bit of an abomination or reconstruction of natural selection and I feel that we need to be wary of pontificating or judging the significant efforts of those who believe in breeding white Dobermans. I have a great breeder in Camp Verde, AZ. But congrats on your all black doberman there are a few of us out here that want them to be recognized especially since all the false reports on them, and they are not from inbreeding. This is a difficult question as it is not really possible to tell whether a purebred white tiger has/has not any particular advantage genetically over a normal coloured tiger. You all claim to care so much about these dogs but yet you obviously put no effort into educating yourselves about them and how maintaining a healthy vibrate breed standard is accomplished. The skin is Red/pink not the eyes. Blue was a Beautiful dog. She had light brown pigment to her hair, Light pigment to her skin and blue eyes. I grew up with black and tan dobermans from the age of 3, I now have a beautiful fawn and tan called Senya who literally stops traffic! I own a white Dobie and shes the best dog I have ever had. All responsible breeders should have the goal of breeding to better the breed, not just to breed because you like the color! He was badly abused so we know its going to be a long road. One of the world's largest video sites, serving the best videos, funniest movies and clips. Mutt dogs and shelter dogs can have very unpredictable behavior problems. All our birds are raised on top quality formula, and weaned onto fresh veggies, fruit and nuts, with a small. A newborn bird may give the impression that it is a quiet bird at the onset. King Quails $10 each. But he is, and always will be, the dog we loved the most. Having said that, his eye sight is not perfect. He adores people and does amazing with other cats and dogs He is fully litter trained and eats his hard premium food but loves a Hello, I am selling my 20 gallon waterbox 20 fish tank. I am not sure about anyone else. When you visit a breeder, ask to see the mother and father to judge their friendliness and get references. The dilute colors were frowned upon in their beginning as well. Call to discuss further. 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